Race for the Galaxy

[Teehee(R)]

Igram ja, ali samo na BGA.
Meni je igra i dalje top, ali baš gledam da se riješim papirnate kopije jer jedino žena zna ovo igrati, ali niti ona niti itko drugi pokazuje interes.

[kockica]

Sa ženom, najčešće u kombinaciji
Base + xeno
Base + alien bez orba ali sa uključenim ciljevima iz prvog arca

[Gordan]

baš sam nekidan iskopao keldona pa malo peglao tako. i prije koji tjedan s prikom bacio 2 partije (base+prva exp). ispao sam skroz iz đira kako ne igram godinama. al i dalje je smatram igrom u mom top10

[Valsim]

Race For The Galaxy?

Jesus gledam baš zadnje aktivno igrano prije cca 5 godina .

[tanelorn]

Igram i ja, pretežno na Steamu... Kao što je već napisano, ljude preplaši ikonografija, malo je još onih hrabrih

[Gordan]

Ikonografija ili ne, ruku na srce, igra je zajebana za naučit. Pravila svejedno skužiš kroz 3-4 partije, al strategiju... Davno je kružio txt s uobičajenim stavom igrača nakon odigranih n partija, gdje je n išao od 1 pa do 10ak tisuća.

[kockica]

Kada već mado diže temu, malo o dojmovima kakva je igra danas?

Manje je igramo nego prijašnjih godina, definitivno ne bismo bili dobri za neke turnire, razumljivo s obzirom da sada imamo više igara i koja igra ce izaci na stol ovisi i vremenu s kojim raspolazemo, tako da race spada u kategoriju igara za odigrati cca sat vremena, taman za odigrati dvije do tri partije. Jedna je premalo a i tada bi radije odigrali neku kracu igru.

Race je često bio naša putna igra , ali u međuvremenu su je iz te niše izbacile daleko manje i praktičnije igre za nositi.

Igra je u svakom slučaju još uvijek svježa, posebice sa ekspanzijama, najomiljenije su 2. ( bez orba) i 3. arc.

Ikonografija nikad nije predstavljala problem, ne znam stvarno čemu zazor. Mislim da bi se novi više blokirali zbog toga kako odigravati optimalno karte kao i kako iskoristiti svoje i tuđe odabrane akcije pa početnici naprosto nemaju nikakve šanse protiv iskusnijih te se ni ne trudim podučavati ovu igru. To bi se promijenilo jedino da netko pokaže spremnost i angažiranost na većem nivou od ajmo "isprobati jednu partiju", a da ne kažem kako ih više privlače neke šarenije igre.

Ipak također stalno dolaze nove igre pa novoinicirani vjerojatno neće imati prilike upoznati ovaj dragulj, ali nama će i dalje imati status kultni klasik na našoj polici. Jedino što bih volio naći novu kutiju jer je ova fakat izraubana.

[kockica]

Ikonografija ili ne, ruku na srce, igra je zajebana za naučit. Pravila svejedno skužiš kroz 3-4 partije, al strategiju... Davno je kružio txt s uobičajenim stavom igrača nakon odigranih n partija, gdje je n išao od 1 pa do 10ak tisuća.

Baš našao

75 Steps of Race for the Galaxy's Learning Curve

0-5 plays:
- too complicated
- there's too much going on
- symbols are confusing, text is so much better
- phases are confusing
- Explore +1+1's way too much

5-20 plays:
- enjoyable but can't figure out strategy, quits
- consume and trade are confusing
- no player interaction
- what is the best phase for me?
- Settles way too much
- settles Terraformed World with Doomed World homeworld

20-50 plays:
- i had no chance, my starting hand was awful
- playgroup discovers military
- military always wins
- understands Contact Specialist
- starts using Consume-Trade
- does not respect the leech (intentionally skipping phases because you "have a plan")
- game is pure luck
- Improved Logistics is overpowered

50-100 plays:
- playgroup discovers tableau rushing
- tableau rushing always wins
- i had no chance, my opponent got a god draw
- too much randomness
- deck slowly gets memorized over time
- playgroup discovers consume engines
- consume engines always win
- reads some strategy articles
- what are my opponents doing?
- thank god for symbols and not text
- discovers leeching
- Terraforming Guild is overpowered
- what are the best phases for my opponents?
- what phases are my opponents likely to choose?
- there is player interaction and it's neat!

100-200 plays:
- realizes there's metagame and groupthink
- what phase should i choose that least helps my opponents and most helps me?
- Improved Logistics isn't that great
- Old Earth sucks
- Alien Toy Shop is overpowered
- learns about naked trades
- starts detecting tells and taking advantage of them
- starts bluffing

200-350 plays:
- discovers the Trade strategy
- leeches every phase like a champ
- overemphasis on rushing results in 12-tableau that loses to 6-card Alien tableau
- ELC+ATS is overpowered
- Old Earth sucks
- deck slowly gets grokked over time
- Research Labs sucks
- Pan-Galactic Research is overpowered
- discovers blunting
- finally very few rules errors
- reverse/multilevel psychology
- constructs extremely efficient consume engines

350-600 plays:
- always discards Alien Toy Shop for a challenge
- grey worlds suck with goals
- hates Damaged Alien Factory because its opening phases are too predictable
- builds cards based on what might be drawn that goes well with it
- Old Earth sucks but willing to play it when it's correct to do so
- Epsilon Eridani sucks
- hates choosing between Ancient Race and Damaged Alien Factory
- blunts as a bluff
- finds esoteric outs in rarely seen scenarios

600-1000 plays:
- nothing is overpowered
- likes Research Labs
- no longer groans when opponent plays Pan-Galactic Research
- learns ability to win with the absolute worst of starting hands
- hates getting Damaged Alien Factory as military homeworld choice when has a military hand
- very rarely plays pure, predictable consume engines, always finds better hybrid paths
- Earth's Lost Colony sucks
- hates getting ELC+ATS because it's too predictable/exploitable, but it's slightly too good not to play it
- still implements some aspect of the takeover rules wrong
- vaguely ponders Doomed World into Old Earth with the worst hand ever
- Alien Toy Shop isn't that great

1000-??? plays:
- TBD, still learning and still fun, how deep does the rabbit hole go?

...10 years later:
4000 plays:
- Finally declines playing Public Works with a military tableau. It's both glorious and liberating.

[Gordan]

Prokletstvo današnjeg vremena i hiperprodukcije igara. Nitko nema vremena za uc dublje u neku igru. Ako nisu sarene đinđe, kul figure i drugi eye candies za na prvu, igra nema nikakve šanse.

[mado]

...10 years later:
4000 plays:
- Finally declines playing Public Works with a military tableau. It's both glorious and liberating.

Do tog sam ja došao, usred igranja, na 4 ili 5toj karti u tablou promijenim igru samo da vidim što će se dogoditi već par godina igram samo na mobu jer uživo nitko više ne želi. Zadnjih pola godine igram samo baznu igru. Android app ima implementiranu baznu igru i prvi arc proširenja. I dalje je military slabiji u baznoj igri, al za razliku od nekada kad skoro nikad nije pobjeđivao, sad mogu s njime pobijediti. Bila mi jako zanimljiva partija neki dan, ultra rašanje tabloa sa finalnom rezultatom 16:14 znači možeš pobijediti sa 16 bodova dok ćeš drugi put izgubiti sa 50. Ne vidim da bi mi ovo igra ikad mogla dosaditi.